At the Emissions “Testing” Place Again

"Future Heap Owner" (aperiodic) 03/12/2019 at 15:43 • Filed to: triggers for Tristan, Emissions Testing, Oregon

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Why do I seem to end up here so often?

Oh right, I’m developing a car purchasing habit.

AMA while I’m bored in line.

AestheticsInMotion > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 15:48

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So how does it drive? Have you wrung it out a bit? Is there a lot of lag or does the boost hit early? Does it taper off near the top? Cornering?

If you could do one *crazy* mod, what would it be? 

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 15:51

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How do they do the testing? OBD or pipe?

We got rid of our testing a long time ago.  I only ever had to test the D100

Future Heap Owner > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 03/12/2019 at 15:55

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If you have OBD-II, they just plug in and make sure nothing looks bad. Pre OBD-II vehicles get the tailpipe sniffer. Everything back to... 1975 (I think) gets tested, and that cutoff is fixed, not rolling.

This is only for Portland and Medford metro areas. Nowhere else in Oregon requires emissions testing.

lone_liberal > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 15:57

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Move across the river! Washington is ending emissions testing in 2020 which means that everybody can license all of their cars at their actual houses and not in counties that didn’t require it. 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 15:57

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I thought they were phasing emissions testing out here in WA... You may want to embrace a mailing address outside the “city” parts of the state. Lower registration costs and no emissions testing... I haven’t tested any of my cars since moving here.

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 15:57

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emissions...oo that reminds me... where’d his stigness go?

dont think ive seen him since his last post went a little sour

shame that... dude was allright if a lil angry

404 - User No Longer Available > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 16:03

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As much as all the crap the current Ontario government is doing with the province right now... I’m just glad they got rid of emissions testing completely.

Future Heap Owner > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2019 at 16:06

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It drives way nicer than anything I’m used to! But, you know, I’m used to a Corolla, a 25-year-old half ton pickup, a gen 1 Prius, and a Town & Country minivan.

I had some fun with on-ramps on the drive down, but haven’t really put it through its paces. The turbo engages pretty low in the rev range; once you’re around 2-2.5k there’s very little lag. I haven’t gone very far up the rev range (I think I took it up to the rev limiter once and I wasn’t paying attention to the power curve).

The suspension is a lot stiffer than I’m used to, so there’s almost no body roll when taking curves 10-15mph higher than the posted speed, but I haven’t gone on any twisters yet, so I don’t really know, and also I’m not at all experienced in this area. I f I don’t get a dog by this weekend, I may go hit some nearby twisties in the coastal range  with my friend in his WRX.

AfromanGTO > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 16:12

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I never had to do that for any of my cars. Somehow my GTO passed everything in VA when I bought it from the dealer. 

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > lone_liberal 03/12/2019 at 16:14

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I just use the self-service station which can’t tell if I’m hooking up to a car or a simulator.

Mid Engine > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 16:16

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If I remem ber correctly there’s a number of DIY centers in the Portland area, pretty much no one uses them because *gasp* you have to plug the business end of the tester into your OBD port all by yourself .

Related note, there’s no testing whatso e ver in Washington state, just sayin’ :)

Future Heap Owner > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2019 at 16:17

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Oh, as for *crazy* mod... unfortunately I don’t think a VW VR6 would fit in the engine bay. So... probably completely new sound system. Either it would be added alongside the stock head unit (since it also shows all the auto climate control settings), or use a double-din that I could program to show those settings, either way   with micro controllers running custom firmware to translate between steering wheel audio controls and/or  center stack controls and the new system.

Future Heap Owner > Mid Engine 03/12/2019 at 16:19

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Wait what? I friggin’ do that for fun. I had no idea that was an option.  Do you know what any of them are called?

Future Heap Owner > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 16:23

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Honestly, setting that up sounds like more work than doing the testing.

AestheticsInMotion > Mid Engine 03/12/2019 at 16:33

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Hmm, I’m in Kind county and currently need t o get my V70 to pass emissions and I had to have my 850 and Miata do the same.

Mid Engine > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 16:39

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No.. I moved to Seattle four years ago. I’m pretty sure t here was one off 26, near the Home Depot Hillsboro).

Mid Engine > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2019 at 16:40

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I had to get my Cayman tested, but no more as WA isn’t bothering with testing. This change took place very recently, you may want to check for yourself to be 100% (King County sucks, but you knew that ).

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 16:44

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True. But if you keep buying heaps, it could pay off. I just switch registration and wait for plates, there aren’t any  extra steps...

Mid Engine > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 16:44

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I live in Bothell but also bought a property in Gold Bar a few months ago, I’ll register my cars wherever they’re cheapest and has the least government mandates. 

Mid Engine > 404 - User No Longer Available 03/12/2019 at 16:45

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Quebec never did testing, I thought Ontario was the same. I learned me something

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Mid Engine 03/12/2019 at 16:56

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I can all-but guarantee the Gold Bar address will save you a substantial amount of money on car registration/taxes. It’s in Snohomish County (which saves you some), outside the area considered urban (no emissions testing, lower taxes), etc.

Mind you, emissions tests are going away entirely in all of WA starting in 2020.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2019 at 16:58

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You won’t need to do that after the end of this year. I used to get this benefit (no testing, just pay the fees to change registration and sales taxes) from living in Kitsap County and now in the boonies of King County. Only the urban areas are forced to get testing done. I’m just beyond the boundary for that... Not that any car I have ever owned has ever been un able to easily pass testing .

AestheticsInMotion > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 17:02

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Man. If only this all started one year earlier . I need to get my new Volvo registered, but can’t until it passes emissions. Which means.... I have to get it running first...

Mid Engine > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 17:02

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Yeah, I’ll check out both before renewing my tabs. I’m in unincorporated Bothell, outside the insane Sound Transit 3 levies. 

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > lone_liberal 03/12/2019 at 17:02

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People will still do that to avoid taxes, though.

My annual taxes on my car is $60-something, while anyone a couple miles west of me with the same car pays $900-something.

facw > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 03/12/2019 at 17:04

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He was clearly on edge, and I don’t think the pile-on helped, regardless of whether it was well-intentioned. During his previous hiatus he’d still stop by Fur Face Friday, but didn’t see him last week.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Mid Engine 03/12/2019 at 17:05

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Ahh, in that case you’ll probably only save a bit. King has some extra tax on cars, but it’s not substantial. I think in one of my groups we found that it was only $5-6 more per car in King than Snohomish.

AestheticsInMotion > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 17:07

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Got a lot of pushback from the community, but my sound system installation in the Miata was one of my favorite things I’ve ever done to a car. Felt like a “big” project, but I also didn’t have to worry about screwing something up and not being able to drive.

I bet your wagon is going to be a ton of fun in the twisties. It's crazy how flat they corner, just not something you would expect! 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > facw 03/12/2019 at 17:15

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oh i know hes still posting.... i checked :p

just not here.. and thats a shame

but thats his call to make

still... wish him all the best and hope he comes back someday

Future Heap Owner > AestheticsInMotion 03/12/2019 at 17:20

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Man, really? I am a big fan of your sound system project , since I love listening to music when I drive and it seems like everyone else just gives up on having that in an open-top Miata (or uses headphones). And I know what you mean; the freedom to mess up without severe consequences is such a great feeling in any project (big reason why I got that truck).

Mid Engine > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 17:21

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I have friends that live within the RTA zone, the tabs are unbelievably high. Chevy SS  $650, Tesla Model S $1100, etc..  I pay $65/car in Bothell

fintail > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 17:55

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They end next year, IIRC.

Decay buys too many beaters > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 17:56

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I’m glad I don’t have to do that any more. That SP plate lyfe

404 - User No Longer Available > Mid Engine 03/12/2019 at 17:59

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We had DriveClean since 1999, and it was only recently scrapped.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4494783/drive-clean-ontario-announcement/

Future Heap Owner > Decay buys too many beaters 03/12/2019 at 18:11

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Gonna get one for the JDM Toyota, too?

Decay buys too many beaters > Future Heap Owner 03/12/2019 at 18:18

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Yeah, primary daily is and will continue to be motorcycles. Hard to pass up a one time $100 registration and no DEQ.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > fintail 03/12/2019 at 18:57

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Yeah, I looked it up and it starts in 2020...

I guess they still have us on the hook until then if we live somewhere that requires it.

fintail > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 03/12/2019 at 21:33

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Easy solution: have cars too new or too old to need it.  

NojustNo > Mid Engine 03/13/2019 at 14:10

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No emissions testing st arts next year.

https://ecology.wa.gov/Air-Climate/Air-quality/Vehicle-emissions/Emissions-check-ends

Future Heap Owner > AestheticsInMotion 03/27/2019 at 23:24

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After I bought the Volvo, I filled it up with regular gas for the way down because it was gonna be an I-5 snoozefest. I’ve finally emptied that tank in the past few days, and I needed a little stress reliever so after work today I filled it up with 92 and took it out around town for a few lower-speed twisties in the rain. Because it was rainy, and there were a few cars nearby, I kept it tame, though I did have a little understeer moment that I (and the car, mostly the car) quickly recovered from.

After I exited the twisties and snaked through the neighborhood to the nearest highway on ramp, I had a straight shot to speed up and merge over so I let loos e — and man, does the premium make a difference on the top-end power curve! Before it would peter out around when it got in the high 5k revs , now with the 92 in there it keeps on pushing past 6k, seemingly all the way to the rev limiter near 7 ! I only had the opportunity to do this once because I immediately hit traffic, but I’m looking forward to trying it again.

AestheticsInMotion > Future Heap Owner 03/28/2019 at 01:17

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That’s the spirit! These wagons really do MOVE. 

I’ll just be over here, waiting to hear that you’ve ordered a bigger turbo lol

Future Heap Owner > AestheticsInMotion 03/28/2019 at 01:49

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Yeah... I wonder. I do like the curves more than the straightaways , and I don’t feel a need for more power in the curves . That said, a stage 1 tune I can easily see myself doing.